Both integral 154-CM. The amount of time it took Loveless to make each knife from a solid block of 154-CM steel is the equivalent to making three regular ones. As he once said, you should be insane to be willing to make an integral subhilt. These knives are featured in in the R.W. Loveless-Luigi Peppini book. Value approx $50k for the Wilderness, $65K for the Big Bear Subhilt…